DAAD 100th anniversary

1925 was the year in which Europe found itself in an interwar period. It was also the moment when The German Academic Exchange Service (DAAD) was established with big aspirations. Now, in 2025, DAAD is celebrating its 100th anniversary and taking a moment to look back at its century-long history filled with notable phases and inspiring developments. Why was the DAAD established in 1925, and how has the organisation evolved over time? What is currently important to know about the status of internationalisation in Germany? And what is on the horizon for DAAD in the coming years? 

In this EAIE podcast episode, Laura Rumbley talks to Dr. Kai Sicks, the Secretary General of the DAAD, about this 100-year milestone. We also get to hear from two people across the globe for whom the DAAD made a big difference in their lives. Dr. Luis Pocasangre received a DAAD scholarship and now works as Director of the Tropical Agricultural Research and Higher Education Centre (CATIE) in Costa Rica. Dr. Dorothee Weyler also once received a scholarship from DAAD, which made her fall in love with Africa. She is still working as a director for the DAAD Regional Office in Eastern Africa. Join us in celebrating 100 years of the DAAD by listening to this latest EAIE podcast episode!

About Kai Sicks
Dr. Kai Sicks has been Secretary General of the German Academic Exchange Service (DAAD) since April 2021. He studied German Studies and Political Sciences in Frankfurt/Main, Cologne and Vienna. In 2008, he completed his Ph.D. in German Literary Studies. He was a research scholarship holder at the German Historic Institute in Washington, D.C. and Cornell University (USA). From 2008 until 201,3, Dr Sicks acted as coordinator of the European PhD Network in Literary and Cultural Studies (PhDnet) at the International Graduate Center for the Study of Culture (University of Giessen). He also worked as managing director of the Bonn Graduate Center and director of the University of Bonn’s International Office.  

About Prof. Dr Luis E. Pocasangre
Prof. Dr. Luis E. Pocasangre is the Director of the Tropical Agricultural Research and Higher Education Centre (CATIE) in Costa Rica. He obtained an M Sc. in Plant Breeding at CATIE Costa Rica in 1992, and in 2000, he was awarded a PhD at Rheinische Friedich-Wilhelms Universitaet, University of Bonn, Germany, for his research on biological control of plant parasitic nematodes and Panama Disease using endophytes. He has worked as principal scientist of Bioversity Internationally for Latin America and the Caribbean (LAC)) and Director of Research at Del Monte and EARTH University. Dr. Pocasangre has a lot of experience in international agriculture and has been a mentor to over 90 young scientists from Africa, Europe, Latin America and the Caribbean.

About Dorothee Weyler
Dr. Dorothee Weyler is the Director of the DAAD Regional Office Eastern Africa in Nairobi. She studied Biology at the University of Bonn, where she was assistant to the Vice Chancellor for two years. She completed her PhD thesis in Cameroon on Medical Entomology as a DAAD Scholarship holder. She ran her own malaria research project, which has been published in multiple journals. She also holds a Diploma in European Environmental Law. Before taking over the position of Director of the DAAD Regional Office in Nairobi in January 2024, she oversaw DAAD scholarships in Africa. She worked as an expert on institutional building in higher education in Africa for the DAAD, where she gained a wealth of experience in implementing cooperation projects between German and African higher education institutions.

Transcript

Laura Rumbley: This is the EAIE Podcast, a production of the European Association for International Education. My name is Laura Rumbly. I'm the EAIE's Director for Knowledge Development and Research. And we're so pleased you're taking a moment to tune in to episode 101 in our series. In this episode that marks the start of our second century in a manner of speaking, it's fitting that we focus our attention on another century of significance. This one pertains to the German Academic Exchange Service, which is celebrating 100 years since its initial founding in 1925. The German Academic Exchange Service is probably better known by its acronym, which is, of course, DAAD in English and also pronounced by many around the world as DAAD. However you refer to it, it is unquestionably a powerhouse organisation in the field of international higher education cooperation and exchange. Over its 100 years of existence, it's supported more than 2.9 million academics in Germany and abroad. Its operations are made possible by the contributions of more than 1,100 employees and the efforts of day-a-day regional offices and information centres in over 70 different countries. And quite impressively, the DAAD maintains a network today of more than 430,000 program alumni around the world. The DAAD's 100-year anniversary in 2025 offers a fantastic opportunity to take a closer look at this long-standing, highly successful organisation. And who better to do this with than Kai Sicks, the DAAD's secretary general? In our short conversation with Kai, we take a look back at the DAAD's founding, which we learned was student-led, by the way. We hear about the DAAD's early years, including the demoralising period of association with the Nazi party. We hear about the organisation's evolution and gain some insight into key issues framing the internationalisation of German higher education today. We get some firsthand information about the DAAD's new strategy for 2030. Along the way, a couple of special guests share their thoughts about what the DAAD means to them, whether working for the organisation or benefiting from a DAAD scholarship opportunity. So thanks again for joining us for this special consideration of 100 years of the DAAD, and we'll jump right into it with Kai Sicks. Kai, it is just fantastic to have you joining us for the EAIE podcast. Thank you so much for being with me today.

Kai Sicks: Thank you very much. It's a pleasure to be here.

Laura Rumbley: We are here to talk about the 100th anniversary of the DAAD. And as we begin this conversation, I would be delighted if you would be willing to take us back in time. 1925 was the interwar period in Europe. What was the impetus for the establishment of this organisation called the German Academic Exchange Service? And could you characterise for us a bit some of its aspirations at the earliest stage of its existence?

Kai Sicks: Absolutely. So you think of the 1920s, early 1920s, which was the time right after World War One. So, Germany was also isolated in academia. There was the first big breach of civilisation in the 20th century back then. And the idea behind the political aspirations connected to DAD was to reconnect generally to the world and to reintegrate German science research and higher education to the international community. So this is why the German foreign office and the German government in the Weimar Republic very quickly found that the idea of such an association like the DAAD was a good idea and why they also very soon invested money. At the same time, however, the very origin of DAD did not have anything to do with politics was originating from students. that's quite a nice story. In 1922 23, there was a young doctor student from the University of Heidelberg named Karl Friedrich, who travelled to Harvard University in the United States for a year or so. He met colleagues at the Institute of International Education, the IIE, which is still one of our most important partner organisations today. And when talking to them, he was able to negotiate 13 scholarships for fellows of himself, like fellow doctor students in political sciences from the University of And so he went back and took with him this offer of 13 scholarships and found 13 young women and men who applied. And so there was the first cohort of students funded by the IIE to go to the United States. And they were so enthusiastic about their experiences, their professional academic experiences, but also the cultural experiences they had. But when they returned to Germany, to Heidelberg, they thought we must have something like IIE in Germany. So it was actually an association that was founded by students in Heidelberg in 1925. But that was the very start of the IEE it just makes me smile and feel warm all over. These ideas of just good people connecting with one another. And isn't it remarkable the power of one person's experience and one person's inspiration to do something bigger. And this very person was called Friedrich. Later on had to flee from the Nazis in Germany and went back to Harvard again and became a very famous professor of political science at Harvard and one of the fathers, the educational fathers of Kissinger. It was a very important figure for the German American exchanges also in the political sphere after World War II.

Laura Rumbley: Really a 20th century notable. That's really, really a fascinating story. So, as we look back now on the century-long history of the DAAD, are there any notable phases or developments that are beyond this first spark and beginning in the life of the organisation that stand out to you as being particularly important in understanding how this organisation has evolved over time?

Kai Sicks: Absolutely. And if you look at the span of 100 years, it's so for DAAD, this was a period of continuous growth, almost and a story of success, parallel to the growth of the German higher education sector, and also the impression of quality of this sector. So in general, it's a really, it's a wonderful story that we overlook. But also, like in every history, there are also ups and downs. And there was one down that was falling very soon after the original foundation, which was the role of DAAD in the Nazi regime. Because it very quickly offered services to the Hitler government in the 1930s. And there's also a very sad part of the story of DAAD, as it was also a period when the top leading positions of DAAD were also held by Nazi officials. And when the whole mission was completely dedicated to Nazi foreign policy. Wow. At the same time, the more the war progressed in the 1940s, the less important became international exchange of students. So German students were not allowed to go abroad anymore. Hardly anyone would come to Germany anymore. And the mission of DAD in the 1940s was completely limited to having some very few scholarships for students from befriended states of the Nazis. And in 1945, DAD was dissolved. So that was it. That was the story. So 20 years after the foundation was actually quit again. And what followed from there, and this is again an interesting, we're basically back to back to the situation in the 20s, you know, like, isolated, again, no one wanted to be together with Germany. then there was a new impetus coming from the allies, basically. So particularly the British military administration in Germany back in the time, had the idea that, like, like in the 20s, that that if you have an exchange of the level of academics,

that might take Germany back to the international community. But this time, they were also pretty much driven by the idea that if you bring people from democratic countries to Germany, or if you bring well educated Germans, students, scholars, and to democratic countries, that that would also contribute to the democratic development of Germany. And so that's something like World War Two would never happen again. And this was kind of the reason behind the refounding of the idea in 1950. And so we were refunded in 1950 and then with a very strong commitment to the German Kund-Gazette, the constitution, which was published almost at the same time. So the idea was for the idea now to contribute also not only to the international connectivity, but also to the democratic development of Germany itself.

Laura Rumbley: I find it really so remarkable to think about those darkest days of a country's experience and how an educational idea or an idea rooted in education can open a door and open a little window and let some light in, you know, in a very, very powerful way. So a very special, and I think for those of us who don't know that history of the DAAD to understand, you know, what happened there and the process of rebuilding that took place after the war. Extremely fascinating. As we think about the situation of Germany today, outsiders looking in at the international higher education sector today, what would you say is important for us to know about the state of play? Are there some key aspects of Germany's approach to internationalization today that would be good for us to know about? And what kind of role is the day-a-day playing in all of this work?

Kai Sicks: Yeah, I think if we look at the status of internationalization of our sector here today, we see that for the past 20 years, we've seen very strongly rising numbers in international students at universities to name one first aspect. We have now approximately 400,000 international students in Germany, which is something like 14 % of our students overall. And these numbers have been rising. Also the share has been rising for, as I said, for two decades now, mainly because German universities opened themselves to English language master programs. So there are more and more of these programs and the number is still growing. And this attracted and still attracts international students from all over the world. What is special for Germany and for this approach is that we do not have tuition fees until today. even for non European students, we do not charge any tuition. And of course, they have to cover their living costs in Germany as well, which is not cheap. But there's no extra tuition, then they can come to university and study here and get a degree. Basically for free. They have to overcome the language barrier, though. This is still one of the challenge that remains. What has been important over the past years is also the challenges that we face in our labour markets may know that there is a demographic shift up to come, still up to come. And until the end of this very decade, we will have a large lack of skilled labour, also of academic labour on the German labour market. And so there is also a high interest in retaining international graduates in Germany. And interestingly, so we've been very successful in doing so so far. So approximately 50 % half of international graduates are still in the country five years after graduation, which is compared to other countries for our neighbor countries, for example, much more successful in regards of of retention than they are probably because of the very generous regulations when you transfer from university to the labor market in Germany. So you have two years time to find an appropriate job, which is quite long compared to other countries. One last aspect that is distinctive in Germany is that we have a quite a diverse international student population. So the international students are not so much dominated by students from particular countries may it be China or India. So only 10 % of the international students come from China, and 12-13 % from from India. And these are the largest population groups within the students. But apart from that, it's very diverse and all over the world, which is something that I consider as something good and attractive. So we are not neither dependent on one of these groups.

And we also have this rich diversity which really enriches also our academic. Yeah, but what do we do as DAAD? That's also something you asked. So two important things, guess. First, we try to invite international students and scholars to Germany, as well as Germans to go to the world. We offer scholarships across all fields, across all status groups in your academic life cycles. And so we contribute to the international character of the German education institutions by giving out scholarships, making it possible for people to come here to Germany.

Laura Rumbley: This is your host again, Laura Rumbly, just interrupting the conversation with Kai for a moment. He's just mentioned here the impact of the DAAD scholarship granting activity on German institutions. But of course, those scholarships have also had an effect on the individuals who receive them. We caught up with one such scholarship recipient and had an opportunity to chat with him briefly about his DAAD funded international study experience as well as some of the ways his connections with DAAD have had an impact on his career over time. So let's take a quick listen here to the words of Luis E. Pocasangre, who serves as Director General of the Tropical Agricultural Research and Higher Education Center, known by its Spanish language acronym as CATIE, based in Turialba, Costa Rica.

Luis E. Pocasangre: For me, DAAD is a very important organization in my academic formation because I got a scholarship from DAAD for making my PhD in Germany. And I have also the opportunity to receive a German language course in Goethe-Institut also with the scholarship of DAAD. That was six months in Mannheim in the Quete Institute. And later on, I did my PhD in Bonn University. And my professor doctor was Dr. Richard Cicotta from Bonn University in the Department of Plant Protection, Department that is Plant Pathology. After I finished my PhD, I had been in contact with my doctor father and Professor Ciccora, and we exchange students. The student from Professor Ciccora from Germany came to Katia because I was professor at Katia at that time. And I received more than 10 students from Germany. All of them got the scholarship from the D.A.D. But a part of this, I sent more than seven students from Latin America to go to Bonn University in order to conduct master's science studies as well as PhD studies. That means that was a relationship in which we sent students in both ways, from Europe to Calgary and Costa Rica, as well as from Central America to Europe, mainly to the University of Bonn, because Professor Sikora was the director of the Phytomedicine, a tycoon from the university. I would like to tell you also that a part of this is that we receive students in Central America for summer schools here in Central America. Most of them were also a student who got the scholarship from DAAD. The DAAD was also supporting several students in making short visits to our projects in Central America as well as Professor Cicotta as well as some scientists from Bonn University who were supporting us in the international congress that we organized in the region. That was a very meaningful support also because several scientists from Germany came to Latin America to make keynote presentations at an international congress, and that was very positive for our research group in Catia at that time.

Laura Rumbley: Now, back to our conversation with Kai Sicks.

Kai Sicks: And the other thing is, and that's also very important, has become much more important over the past decades as well, is that we also support the internationalisation of German universities structurally. So we offer also programs to which our universities can apply in order to build up better structures to welcome international students, to support international students, also to connect internationally, to find international partners. So it's that we have this personal approach.but we also follow a more structural approach where we support the internationalization of the sector.

It has sounded like such an important story of resource allocation. You know, the, the day a day's work really providing the means for experiences to happen for individuals, but also for institutions to evolve and to grow in the work that they do. and a very successful story at that over the last decades. Now you look toward a second century and I wonder if you might spell out for us some of the notable directions or priorities or aspirations that the DAAD has for the coming years.

We've just published a new strategy. And looking until the end of this decade until 2030. And so we define some of the priorities for future work. And one is definitely the I'd already talked about this, the attraction of an international talent to Germany and also the retention of this talent in Germany, where I think there are still areas where we need to improve, for example, when it comes to the international students who actually also finished their degrees. So we still see that there is a group which is too large, from my point of view, that does not finish the studies in Germany for different reasons, financial reasons, also reasons of maybe support through the universities, maybe also problems in the selection of the students in first place. So, but this is something we will work on because it's also a waste of resources if we do not make that these students or contribute to these students being able to finish on some of the studies. And then of course we face a new world order or maybe the beginning of a new world order or at least major shifts in the geopolitical sphere. And this does also affect our work, of course. And one thing that is very important for us is that the the classical partner countries, which we collaborated for almost all these 100 years like our partners in the United States and North America, but also the UK and the European partners. I think these the condition of political relations to these countries are also shifting. And I think it's very important that we do not consider or take these partnerships for granted. and that we need so and this is our commitment. We want to invest in these partnerships in order to continue this success story with all these partners. But I think it's necessary to also come up with new initiatives and impulses to stabilize these partnerships and also to continue them in the future. And at the same time, we also see partnerships with countries where there are political, where we have a difficult political relation to, or Germany has a difficult legal reaction to. And for our mission as DAAD is that we generally we want to maintain academic relations with basically all countries in the world. But of course, we also have to consider that there are nowadays also some there might also be risks in some kinds of partnering up with some countries. And so there are questions of, for example, research security, which have become much more important today than 10 or 20 years ago, for example. So this is also this the question of how do we shape these partnerships in the future is also a very important questions when we look to the next five years.

Laura Rumbley: So in our conversation here today, Kai, we've covered a lot of very big picture issues, a century in the life of an organization, a national project to focus on internationalization and these wider geopolitical questions and issues. But if we go back to the beginning of our conversation, we talked about the one experience of the first person who kind of turned their experience into the seed for the day-a-day. The individual experience to me is always so fascinating and interesting, which leads me to my final question for you, if I may, which is to ask a little bit about your own personal experience. So what role has international education and exchange played in your life as a young person or as a professional? And I would be fascinated to know what it means to you personally to serve as secretary general of the day a day today.

Laura Rumbely: With apologies for another quick aside here, this question to Kai about his personal experience working for the DIA Day got us to thinking about the 1,000 plus other individuals working for the organization around the world. What does 100 years of international educational exchange and collaboration mean to them? And what kinds of work are they involved in in the field? Unfortunately, it's impossible to get all or even many of those perspectives on the record here with us in this episode.

But we did have a chance to speak briefly with Dr. Dorothee Weyler, who serves as director of the DAAD Regional Office in Nairobi. She herself once benefited from a DAAD scholarship, which allowed her to spend a year in Cameroon, and which she credits with opening the door on a love affair with Africa, which she brings to her current role. Here's what she had to say about what the DAAD stands for from her perspective and what the DAAD's work in East Africa aims to support.

Dorothee Weyler: I would like to distinguish between the DAAD as an organisation, so more generally, and the impact of the DAAD. That means more activities on the ground. So firstly, the DAAD stands, and is well-known for the internationalisation of higher education institutions worldwide. And since the DAAD is not a ministry, it's an association of the higher education institutions in Germany, we can work politically independently. And we do that since our establishment 100 years ago. And I think that is, for me, the outstanding request for this very long-lasting journey and the successful story of the DAAD in the international system as such. And during all the years, so 100 years, we were able to believe in and to stick to our values by acting politically independently and of course, also without political influence. That is since the foundation, on one hand, is tolerance, contribution to tolerance, but also contribution to peaceful conflict solutions and to secure peace. And nowadays, of course, wants to add that we also contribute to enable human beings and society to face the upcoming global challenges. And that brings me to the second point which means our actors, the human beings we invest in too, so our target group. I think by believing in this group of graduates and trained people and investing into them, I really use investment in the sense of really putting money into them, we particularly enabled human beings and most of the young generation to use their potential, to use their potential to find solutions in the world for peace, for conflicts, and also, of course, for facing global challenges nowadays. And I think that is the engine what forces and what the DAD has driven during all these years, these hundred years, to believe in education and that education, particular international and higher education, really makes a difference. And for me, I'm really proud to be part of that and that I can contribute to that as well also as a former scholarship holder myself. So since I'm leading the Nairobi office of the DAAD in Kenya, it's important to know that the DAAD is now for more than 50 years on the ground in Kenya. And we are not only responsible for Kenya, we are also responsible for the East African member states, plus Ethiopia, where we also run an office. And when I look back to the 50 years, I think we are really proud of our alumni and of our target groups. So we have more than 18,000 trained and graduate people in Kenya and more than 45,000 in the East African community. And knowing that these people are already, most of them already in crucial key positions, be it in academia or in public life, or there are already decision makers, for example, in politics, that's...perhaps mirrors the value and the impact we had during the last years. And it's also important to tell the community that these people are really prepared and ready to be linked up with further international collaboration projects, of course. So these are our ambassadors, these are our contact persons, and they're really willing to give back and to assist wherever we as DAAD are on the ground or other universities come in to get information and assistance.

So these are graduates from different scholarship programs, but don't worry, I don't want to reflect on all our instruments we are offering for short and long term stay. But I want to emphasize one particular program that is really a unique selling point for us as a DAAD on the ground, because I don't know any other organization offering scholarships for, example, Kenyans to do the master or PhD in Kenya or in the region that is a so-called in-region, in-country scholarship program, what is also lasting since the last 50 years, and really makes a difference in the region in particular for students from families with lower income, and of course for women. So that means women can get support for gaining their degree without leaving their families. So we see it also in the context of empowering the women in this region.

I think that is really remarkable. And as I said, I don't know any donor who is offering that for the target group, the students here on the ground. There are two other important pillars I wanted to mention where we are active in. That is on one hand, I think that is also valuable to mention that we support collaborations between institutions. That means universities in Germany with universities in sub-Saharan Africa and of course also in East Africa in order to establish projects and well known is the Center of African Excellence project. These are different topics but always demand orientated here for the region where the German universities come in in order to build up this project and offer a lot of funding instruments like scholarships, capacity building, flying faculty, infrastructure, etc. And this support is from up to three to ten years. So in that sense, we really make an impact. And of course, this well-established projects are already also open to connect with other collaborating institutions or interested researchers. So that I think is also important to mention.

And last but not least, know that the DAAD is mandated in Germany to promote the EU programs for German universities. And that brings us now to the East African region, where the EU programs, of course, more and more getting importance as donors. And the DAAD office in Nairobi also tries to promote and to assist in getting information.

for this new funding areas here for the institutions on the ground, because that is really a lack until now. These programs are there, but the African universities are suffering to get the information how to apply and how to get into contact. So I think that is also for the DAAD office here on the ground, one of the future engagements to support the EU programs. Having said that, yes, I think that is in a very, very short over our activities and our impact.

Laura Rumbley: With those thoughts from Dorothee Weyler, the director of the DAAD Regional Office in Nairobi, we get back now to our conversation with Kai Sicks to hear something about his own international experiences as a student and professional and what his leadership role at the DAAD means to him today.

Kai Sicks: I studied German, so I started studying German, particularly German literature. So I decided to go abroad, but not so far abroad that I would not be a non-German. So I went to Austria, to Vienna. And that was quite interesting in terms of international exposure, because I spent five years of my life as a student there. particularly coming from Germany it's, I think many Germans considered Austria not so different culturally than Germany, or even kind of a cultural part of Germany or something like that. And if you live there, so I do have some friends who say that they've never experienced being a foreigner so much as when they were in Austria for a while. And all these little fine these fine distinctions between Germany and Austria that you experience every day. And so it was really a very first exposure that was much more international than it seems at the first glance. And after I studied there, I took over a position as a coordinator of a PhD network in Europe. And that was actually my very first so kind of a late bloomer. So in terms of internationalization, this was my first very intense period of working internationally. So we had a network of five European universities from all over Europe, from Bergamo and Lisboa to Stockholm and Helsinki and Graz. it was kind of a European university alliance of all that. We connected the humanities departments of these universities and created a new PhD program. was kind of all for years I was traveling between these five locations.

And that was really such an intense experience of what Europe is and how European education, what binds European education together and what are also the differences and the distinctions between these different education cultures and also structures. So that was really a wonderful time in my life. And that was also when I decided that I would very much like if I have the opportunity to dedicate my professional life to international education. was the starting point for me. What does it mean for me to be the Secretary General of DAAD? I'd say a privilege, but also a challenge. privilege because it's a wonderful position. You meet so many great, smart people from so many backgrounds and countries. And I really have privileges in terms of visiting so many countries and getting to know them and and eminent people there. And that is that is wonderful. And also the range of activities that we carry out and that I personally can experience is also great. So no days like the other basically, that is a that is wonderful. And I really enjoyed this very much and have enjoyed it from the very first time. It's also a challenge because we see all these disruptions.

And this shifting world and this state of polycrisis, as think many would describe it today. And so some of the assumptions that were at the basis of DAD may also shift to a certain degree, at least for example, there are at least people or parties that do not consider internationalization as good per se anymore but as good only under certain conditions, say so. The questions like, I said, research security becomes important. The question of is there enough of international students in Germany? It's something that we have not discussed so far, so much in Germany, but I'm quite sure this will also come looking at all other countries in our neighborhood today. Also, we are also in a period of transition and transformation. And this is sometimes also a challenge, course, but although it does not overshadow the wonderful aspects of this look.

Laura Rumbley: It's really great to hear about this arc of your own career. And I was smiling to myself when you were talking about your experience in Austria as a German, because as a US citizen, I have felt the same visiting Canada. It's the same and yet not at all the same, you know, and wonderful to try and unpack what's going on there. But indeed, your other experiences really provide a lovely window into you and what you bring to your role. It's a very special thing for us at the EAIE to be able to have this touch point with the day-a-day at this really momentous moment of a 100-year celebration. And we wish you all the best in your work and thank you so much for spending time with us today.

Kai Sicks: Thank you very much, Laura, for the interview and all the best to you and to EAIE.

Laura Rumbley: That was Kai Sicks, Secretary General of the German Academic Exchange Service. We also heard from Dorothee Weiler, Director of the Dea Dei Office Africa, based in Nairobi, and Luis Pocazangre-Enamorado, Director of the Tropical Agricultural Research and Higher Education Center, CACIE, in Costa Rica, who was a Dea Dei Scholarship Beneficiary. Our session notes for this episode contain suggestions for resources you might find interesting.

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